Ichabod, The Glory Has Departed: WELS Blogs and Links List

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Ichabod, The Glory Has Departed: Norma Boeckler’s Fourth Book – Religious Art

Thursday, September 18, 2014

Norma Boeckler’s Fourth Book – Religious Art

Order Religious Art here.

Norma Boeckler’s fourth art book has just been published through Amazon – Religious Art.

This her Facebook page for art – Norma Boeckler’s Art.

Norma Boeckler’s website is a convenient place to order her prints and original art.

I admit to getting Norma started on the computer. When I took Photoshop at Glendale Community College, a professional artist was taking the class. His artistic skill was ideal for the Photoshop program, and his classroom examples made us gape in awe.

Norma Boeckler became a member of our congregation, and we saw how artistic she was. I encouraged her to learn Dreamweaver and Photoshop, so she took tutorials and began showing what a Christian artist could do.

Everyone enjoys Norma’s daily offerings on Facebook. The number of works is staggering, so now people have a chance to own many of them in a printed book or as a Kindle ebook.

The books is divided into two main sections. The first part illustrates Biblical verses, which are included for each artwork. I have enjoyed seeing them as they developed. Many have been featured on this blog or in various books I put together.

The Last Supper, p. 30.

Part 2 of the book features Norma Boeckler’s hymn illustrations. Bethany Lutheran Church may be  alone in featuring The Lutheran Hymnal and illustrating the great hymns with art.

Norma selects the well known and the less famous hymns. I teach a graduate class in web tools for educators. I argue that the content plus illustration makes the idea lasting in our minds. This book proves the value.

Norma Boeckler has so many contributions that I can only indicate a few. Readers know how much she continues to do on a daily basis.

This is the idea – she loves art, and everyone appreciates her unusual gifts and her expressions of Christian faith.

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Ichabod, The Glory Has Departed: The Holy Trinity Is Actually Taught in the Bible

Thursday, November 13, 2014

The Holy Trinity Is Actually Taught in the Bible

I remember an Augustana College professor saying the Trinity was not in the Bible. I also found that Knappe, the godfather of Objective Justification, denied the Biblical basis of the Trinity as well. 


I decided to put together the Scriptural verses, and Norma Boeckler agreed to illustrate it. Available as a Kindle e-book as well.


Quoting me:


These passages were gathered by an assistant – always there when I need him most – to show that the Holy Spirit does reveal the Triune God throughout the Bible, from Genesis 1 onward. The parameters chosen were the naming of all Three Persons within two verses. In many cases, the Father Son relationship is revealed by the Spirit in the text of the Word, but the work is more powerful when all three Persons are named or described.





To order The Holy Trinity, click here.

Upcoming projects:

Metamorphosis – A defense of Christianity in the form of a murder mystery novel.

Catholic, Lutheran, Protestant – Amazon edition.

Just a Vacation. Lutheran leaders oppose justification by faith, so I am going to offer some quotations by Luther on their least favorite topic. Yes, the title will reflect Biblical doctrine rather than the LCMS/WELS deluxe winter vacations (for District Presidents) in the Caribbean.

Biblical work on the efficacy of the Word.

Biblical work on Jesus throughout Scriptures.

Decisions.
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Ichabod, The Glory Has Departed: Maria Morgan’s Children’s Book – Louie’s Big Day. Illustrated by Sherrie Molitor

Friday, December 5, 2014

Maria Morgan’s Children’s Book – Louie’s Big Day.
Illustrated by Sherrie Molitor

Maria Morgan has published a great book for children –
Louie’s Big Day.

Maria Morgan’s smile may look familiar, because she is the daughter of Norma Boeckler, our artist-in-residence, who also publishes on Amazon.

I have always enjoyed children’s literature – and that did not stop when I was all growed up. Those who enjoy reading have favorites they read again and again. Not surprisingly, famous authors often mention their favorite authors, such as Nesbit and Twain. The Wind in the Willows is the Moby Dick of children’s literature, so full of insight, drama, and humor that it should be read annually.

Children’s books are easier to read than to write. Anyone who accomplishes this task must be creative and yet convey ideas and images in simple, plain terms.

Maria Morgan’s Louie-the-Lawnmower page.

I downloaded Louie’s Big Day as a Kindle e-book. That may be a handy format for the techno-grandparent, especially one who travels. Reading books to children is the best way to give them a good start in education. The experience bonds parents and children, grandparents and grandchildren.

My mother read books to us children, and I still remember choking back tears when Lassie was struggling to come home. In grade school our teachers often read to us, although we could read the same books. The practice kept us all still and we thought about the story as we heard the words.

Reading imaginative books and biographies will fuel a child’s interest, provide a large vocabulary, and establish a base for learning that will never be satisfied. Did our grade school teachers realize that three of us from the same class would earn graduate degrees at Yale, in music and theology? If not, they certainly helped us get started.

I read books and stories to our children, leading to many inside jokes that still make a 40 year old son laugh. “It rained bricks and mortar for two weeks” – Mark Twain. “Attercop” – a terrible insult to spiders in Tolkien’s The Hobbit. And the great battle cry – “A mole! A mole!” – The Wind in the Willows.

Louie the Lawnmower’s big day concerns his first day home as a lawnmower. The lawnmower is personified, which is great fun for children. I can picture a child looking at the book and getting involved from the start, with such beautiful and vivid illustrations by Sherrie Molitor.

Louie is nervous about his first day mowing the lawn. Would he like it? Would he be allergic?

This takes the reader to a flashback, his days at the hardware store, with a drawing of all his friends waving goodbye to him.

Naturally, Louie is nostalgic about all the pranks they played at night. What follows next is a lot of fun, especially since children love messes. Everything is cleaned up before opening time, so the secret is safe.

So Louie’s first day begins with sadness about the good old days, but he gets into the job and enjoys it, doing it well. A number of pages describe his work and the satisfaction he feels. But he misses his friends.

I thought this was a good story with great illustrations at this point, great for discussions with a child. “Can you imagine all that grass being cut?”

But the story is not done. The trunk pops open, and there are his friends in the trunk, ready to create new memories.

The book ends with questions to use at home and in a Christian day school.

Parents and grandparents will love this book, and teachers will enjoy using it in school. I hope many more books like this will come out in a series.

Order Louie’s Big Day here.

Hi! I’m Maria –

I guess you could say I was born with an active imagination. Combine that with a love for reading, and the possibilities are endless.
My Mom read all kinds of books to my brother and me when we were young. Some of our all-time favorites were by Dr. Seuss – Green Eggs & Ham, andSneetches on Beaches
Although my formal education is in Corporate Wellness and Nutrition, my real love is writing. I started out as an inspirational author and speaker for adults. Now I’ve widened my circle to include kids.
No matter what the age of my audience, my goal is the same:
 To share God’s truths and make an eternal difference.
I live in the muggy South with my husband, two retrievers, and two Maine coon kitties – the perfect mix to fuel my creativity for years to come!

Fun Facts About Me:

 

*One of my favorite things to do as a kid was come up with adventures for our stuffed animals to act out.

 

*We couldn’t have pets when I was growing up because my brother was allergic to them. I’m making up for that now!

 

*I won the Distinguished Student Science Award when I was in 9th grade.
*There are still several boxes in our basement I haven’t unpacked since moving to our house 15 years ago!
*Even though my degree is in the health field, I have the biggest sweet tooth ever!
*When I’m not writing I enjoy: reading, shopping (especially for shoes!), exercising, and baking.

 

 

(You can find my devotionals and download a free copy of my eBook, God Speakinghere.)
Connect with me:
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What people are saying:
Louie’s Big Day! delighted me! I thought the idea was unique, the writing superb, and the illustrations professionally done. All through the book I kept thinking, ‘I’d love to give this to my friends with young children.’ Maria Morgan has a winner here, and I can’t wait to see what she does with future Louie books.” ~ SUSAN J. REINHARDT, author
“My grandkids loved the book Louie’s BIG day! It is a book we will be reading often! After reading we all enjoyed the questions at the end of the book. It made for some great discussions about God making us for a special purpose and facing our fears. Also, how important friends are in our life. Five stars from our family!” ~ DARLENE KING, mom & grandmother
Toy Story gave us the secret life of toys…now Louie’s BIG day! gives us the secret life of yard tools! Small and big fry alike will get a chuckle out of Maria Morgan’s charming little tale, with equally delightful illustrations by Sherrie Molitor, as Louie faces natural nerves over his first real job and the sadness of leaving his friends behind, only to revel in the joy of performing his designed calling. With a “Lesson Corner” and link to a free audiobook at the end.” ~
L. M. WINBORNE, writer

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Ichabod, The Glory Has Departed: Look at Adult Education in the Synods and Find the Agenda. See the WELS Documented Blog for Proof

Tuesday, January 13, 2015

Look at Adult Education in the Synods and Find the Agenda.
See the WELS Documented Blog for Proof

Not Madam Mueller, but WELS Pastor Adam Mueller,
where children are encouraged to put women’s makeup
on the pastor and church council members.

From WELS Pastor Steve Spencer:

Notice that there are no meetings where a Pastor can learn: “How to return your congregation to every-Sunday communion;” “How to introduce the Lutheran Practice of Private Confession in your congregation;” “How to lower the age of First Communion for the spiritual benefit of your children;” “How clergy clothes aid in outreach;” “Why the Crucifix is still ‘Lutheran’;” “How to encourage your congregation in using the Sign of the Cross in their daily lives;” “Why Icons are more than mere decorations for the church building;” “What the Common Cup teaches us about Holy Communion;” “Kneeling is not just for Romans;” etc……. Sad, all these “fixes” for our churches and members, and very few are any different from what one would get from any sectarian church down the street. In fact, the sectarians do all this way better than we do. Meanwhile, the actual and real “fixes” – in the Means of Grace – are almost an afterthought within the church that should be the champion of these Means. We have lost our way. In our rush to ape the “successful” sectarians, we have pretty much turned our backs on our Lutheran and Apostolic heritage. And for this we expect God’s blessings?! Read Malachi 1 – and weep.

Very wise observation, Pastor Spencer. As simple-minded a post this may be, it touches upon the shift WELS has taken. We may teach how important the Means of Grace are, but by our actions we don’t rely upon it. I was saddened this past weekend as I saw the tweets and Facebook posts coming from your neck of the woods. Glowing reviews of a Christian leadership conference that trumpeted business tactics and statistics, rather than the Means of Grace. And I also noticed on the WELS Kingdom workers Facebook page how one WELS member who dared disagree with this way of thinking was soundly told how wrong he was. Anyone ready to have a discussion about this?

WD2

  1. Spencer’s comment from January 13 at 7:16pm shows clearly he’s a sacerdotalist.

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  2. For those who may not know what Sacerdotalism is, here’s the definition: “Religious belief emphasizing the powers of priests as essential mediators between God and humankind.”

    Is that really what Pastor Spencer was emphasizing? I, for one, don’t think so.

    WD2

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  3. Spencer is equating outward observance with a return to the means of grace. He’s also promoting practices that have been rejected by confessional Lutherans, such as infant communion. A church can have a solid law and gospel, means of grace ministry without reverting back to the outward practices of Catholicism. Does Spencer believe that the means of grace are only valid when an ordained clergyman administers them? He used to refer to himself as “Father,” just like a Catholic priest. Does he still do that? Does he still want people to call him that? Folks should be careful to realize that a faithful means of grace ministry, faithful to the Word and the Lutheran Confessions, does not automatically mean a return to Roman Catholic practices and emphases.

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  4. What I said was, “Meanwhile, the actual and real “fixes” – in the Means of Grace – are almost an afterthought within the church that should be the champion of these Means.” I did not say what we need is to rely on the pastor as some kind of necessary go-between between the people and their God. Indeed, the Lutheran Confessions expressly reject this, as do I. The brave name-calling anonymous commentor obviously has no idea either what the Confessions teach or what a sacredotalist actually teaches. The other usual charge made in this connection is “Romanism,” which is just as inaccurate, as all the practices I mentioned were already in place and the norm in the world-wide Christian Church long before the Roman Papacy and its false teachings took over a good portion of the visible church. Again, the Means of Grace really do work – maybe not always the way we silly humans want them to – but they always work the way God wants them to work, and isn’t that the whole point of the church?!
Notice the name change in WELS, from Adult Education to Adult Discipleship.
These four blokes are only part of the Mark Jeske Mob.

According to Slick Brenner, Wayne Mueller was pushed out of teaching at the Sausage Factory because of his Reformed doctrine. (Ditto Joel Gerlach) So WELS gave Wayne a big raise and put him in charge of Perish Services (aka proven methods of killing Lutheran doctrine and worship). When Wayne was promoted again to First VP (hefty salary), he was replaced by Bruce Becker (drive-by DMin), who now works openly with Mark Jeske.

When Wayne Mueller took over Perish Services, he immediately changed two job titles: Youth Education became Youth Discipleship. Adult Education became Adult Discipleship. The word disciple is pivotal for the Church Shrinkage Movement, which hectors people to “make disciples who make disciples” instead of preaching the Gospel of justification by faith and administering the Sacraments. Church Shrinkage has always assumed the cell group model of Pietism, and WELS has trampled over the other sects in rushing into Fuller’s world and chasing the mirages with a vengeance.

ELCA went from women’s ordination to gay ordination
to women running all the schools. Here is the first woman to head a dying seminary.
WELS is eager to follow ELCA.

Adult Education
I decided to study adult education methods for a master’s degree. What really matters is the content, and that has been heavily skewed to the left, ever since FDR’s presidency. The Church Shrinkers work exactly like the Leftists in politics. They have the same methods and want to reverse everything with the same mindless passion.

I remember seeing the LCMS Michigan District’s committee name – Evangelism and Church Growth. Aha, we do not want people to think of Evangelism being The Gospel, but Evangelism meaning the doctrinal content of Fuller Seminary pea-brains and hot-air merchants. The Fuller disciples do make Fuller disciples. The Lutherans (even ELCA) have spent millions at Fuller Seminary, Willow Creek, and Trinity Divinity School.

Therefore, esteemed alumni of Fuller, WC, and Trinity have the same mocking attitude toward Lutheran doctrine and worship that their mentors exude. James Huebner (Wayne Muller.2) is another Fuller devotee who has mocked the efficacy of the Word in his sad, confused publications, but he is First VP anyway. And he often leads people down the dark pathways he has trod – Adult Discipleship.

Why are so many conferences held throughout WELS? There is a constant effort to drum the ideology of Mark Jeske, Paul Kelm, and Larry Olson into every remaining noggin in the sect. They should hurry, because WELS will not last much longer under the current leadership.

WELS is an interesting study because of its small size and lust for brain-dead conformity. Missouri pastors can always point to their alternative groups and lobbies, but they are traveling down the same well-greased road.

Missouri will end up like the Episcopal Church, lots of money in the vault, very few members in church.

“We love the diversity that agrees with our iron-fisted rule.”
Episcopal and Lutheran motto.
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Ichabod, The Glory Has Departed: WELS SUIs – Studying Under the Influence

Wednesday, February 4, 2015

WELS SUIs – Studying Under the Influence

Wednesday, February 4, 2015

Is alcohol becoming more of an issue at our synod colleges?

Underage Drinking at
our Synod Schools
Is drinking and alcohol becoming more of an issue at our Synod Schools? Are there groups like “COS” at Martin Luther College that facilitate the use of alcohol? How much of a problem is it, if any? What about at the high school level? Does it happen in our synod high schools also? What can be done to reduce the occurrences? The 2014 data has not been released yet.



Martin Luther College
 

Liquor Law Violations on Campus in Student Housing Facilities –
2009 – 22 drinking violations
2010 – 07 drinking violations
2011 – 12 drinking violations
2012 – 21 drinking violations
2013 – 26 drinking violations

Liquor Law Violations On campus –

2009 – 25 drinking violations
2010 – 14 drinking violations
2011 – 22 drinking violations
2012 – 27 drinking violations
2013 – 28 drinking violations
Data Taken from the 2011 Annual Security Report
Data Taken from 2013 Annual Security Report

College Sophomore 22 days ago
Party Scene: There is like no partying that’s worth going to. COS or DEX stink and are just people drinking off campus. Source.

College Freshman Dec 31 2014
Greek Life: It does not affect our campus at all. People throw wild parties, yes, but it is low-key and not in the way of us non-greeks. Source.

College Freshman May 6 2014
Drug Safety: Since we are located in a small town, there isn’t much to do, so people resort to drugs and alcohol, but I rarely hear of drugs, just alcohol. Drugs and alcohol are not permitted on campus, so if you are caught, you must pay a fine.Source.



Wisconsin Lutheran College

Liquor Law Violations on Campus in Student Housing Facilities –
2009 – 18 drinking violations

2010 – 45 drinking violations

2011 – 38 drinking violations

2012 – 25 drinking violations
2013 – 41 drinking violations

Liquor Law Violations On campus –

2009 – 18 drinking violations
2010 – 45 drinking violations

2011 – 38 drinking violations

2012 – 25 drinking violations
2013 – 41 drinking violations

Forcible Sex Offense in Resident Hall – 
2012 – 2 Forcible Sexual Offenses
2013 – 2 Forcible Sexual Offenses

Data Taken from Annual Security Report Statistics

College Junior Jul 20 2012
Administration: Dry Campus – WLC is a dry campus and that means that even if you are legal you still cannot bring alcohol onto the campus. It doesn’t mean that you can’t drink off campus but you are not allowed to come back drunk and if you get caught then you will either be suspended or expelled. However they are not the best at following through on their punishments or the meetings that they want to have to discuss the situation with the students envolved. Source

College Sophomore Jul 24 2012
Administration: Dry Campus – Drinking on campus is prohibited, but if you are of age, they have no problem with you drinking off of campus. If you are underage and you come onto campus drunk, you are considered an open container of alcohol and, if caught, you can get into some pretty serious trouble. They are a little more strict on this policy then other private/religious schools, but it doesn’t seem to bother most of the people I have talked to. Source.

Being drunk at college
leads to drinking on the job –
no problem in WELS.
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Ichabod, The Glory Has Departed: Doug Lindee Kicked Out of WELS by Certified Letter – Working with ELDONA. Boycott the Emmaus Conference

Saturday, April 4, 2015

Doug Lindee Kicked Out of WELS by Certified Letter – Working with ELDONA.
Boycott the Emmaus Conference

Doug Lindee
Intrepid Lutherans – what do you do with a certified letter
kicking you out of your congregation?

FRIDAY, APRIL 3, 2015

What do you do with a Certified Letter? Here is one idea…

Certified Letter to Faith Church

Certified Letter to Faith Church

The following letter was sent, Certified Mail, in response to the receipt of a Certified Letter from a Lutheran Congregation. While such letters are an official way for a congregation to terminate relationships with individuals and families they are releasing from membership, and an entirely appropriate form of rebuke when an estranged member cuts himself off from the congregation and refuses to respond to their overtures of evangelical concern, they are nothing but a callous expedient for the congregation which makes no attempt whatsoever to reach out to its members (who up to that point were supposedly considered their brothers/sisters in Christ) or to otherwise contact the intended recipient ahead of time to determine with certainty what their situation is; thus, such Certified Letters belie the congregation’s evangelical confession. That is what happened to the family, below. So perturbed were they with this callous expedient, that they returned the Certified Letter, unopened, along with a personally handwritten letter of their own that extended nine full pages of legal-sized paper. They had much to say, which they found important enough to deliver to their former congregation via Certified Mail. It is worth reading. As many readers may find it difficult to read human handwriting, rather than posting images of the handwritten letter, it has been transcribed, below (edited, of course, for public consumption).





Lxxxxx
1234 Anystreet Road
Nowhere, WI 54000

Faith Church
5678 Anyotherstreet Road
Next to Nowhere, WI 54000

To Whom It May Concern:

We received a piece of certified mail from you, postmarked March 11, 2015. We are returning it to you, unopened. We have very little interest in hearing what you may have to say in such a letter, that you could not preface with a demonstration of evangelical concern, or even basic courtesy, by making a simple phone call or sending an email. But, to be honest, it would have been difficult for us to imagine that you would have done otherwise.

At one point in time we were considered by the members of Faith Church to be Christian brothers. At least, we are pretty sure that we were. Feeling welcomed when we first joined, we were immediately drawn by them into the ministry of the congregation and put to work, and labouring closely with them, had established what we had considered to be close and meaningful relationships. This all came to an end after nearly seven years, when, in mid-2007, without explanation, we were shunned by the congregation. It was difficult to discern precisely, at first, as Mr. Lxxxxx was heavily involved with Church leadership, and was in constant communication with many of those who are now counted as our former friends. But by the end of 2007, his final year in any leadership capacity at Faith Church, it had become clear that the only communication being initiated by those “friends” was strictly related to church business. Beginning in 2008, the reality was unmistakable. Not just a few people, but everyone, including the Pastor, remained mysteriously aloof. He waited week after week for his friends to initiate with him some form of personal conversation. Weeks turned into months. Months turned into years. Nothing. All the while, the women of the congregation pretended to carry on as normal with Mrs. Lxxxxx, but she saw very clearly what was going on, and refusing to be socially separated by them from her husband, remained by his side. She was quickly disfavored, as well. By the time Pastor Sxxxxxxxx passed away in 2009, those former friendships were regarded by us as completely severed. As the years continued to pass, however, we once again began to enjoy some social involvement in the congregation, as other marginalized members of Faith Church recognized our situation and reached out to us in various ways. We also enjoyed conversation with new members, who had not yet been fully received into the labours of the congregation.

Accordingly, Mr. Lxxxxx’s last face-to-face meeting with the Rev. Wxxxx was unfortunate, but predictable. Having had to travel for work, he was unable to attend the October 2013 Voters’ Meeting, but discovered some weeks afterward – quite by accident – that there was some concern regarding the issue of Bible translations, and that the Board of Elders had been asked by the congregation to look into it. There was no hint that this was intended as any kind of formal investigation. Nevertheless, having himself been rather notoriously engaged in research and writing on the topic, he forwarded to the Rev. Wxxxx a number of articles and resources for the Board to consider. When, at the following Voters’ Meeting in January 2014, Mr. Lxxxxx was surprised to see that the issue of Bible translations was on the agenda, he enquired of the Rev. Wxxxx regarding the nature of the Elders’ report – as he was again unable to to attend due to business travel. He was stunned to learn that the Elders would not only be reporting their findings, but would move to officially adopt the NIV 2011. “Did the Board study any of the documents I forwarded to you, for them to consider?” he asked the Reverend.

    “What documents?” was the reply.

    Mr. Lxxxxx, realizing that he had been marginalized yet again, then clarified, “The documents and links I sent to you in an email not long ago.”

    “Oh,” then after a long pause, “No. We only considered the documentation provided by Synod.”

    “But that documentation was biased in favor of a single conclusion!”

    “Yes, I know it was biased. It was biased on its face. But I don’t know why it was biased…”


Now incredulous, Mr. Lxxxxx proceeded to make clear, in sharp and conclusive terms, that he would allow neither himself nor his family to knowingly sit under teaching that proceeded from a document descending directly from post-Modern philosophies known to be perverting human language, and, along with it, human thought patterns; a document which is nothing more than the translators’ paraphrasing of the original languages (paraphrasing which is further edited downstream in the publication process by “readability committees”); a document which deliberately twists thousands of words of Scripture in ways that purposely accommodates liberal theology (feminism, in particular); and a document which, rather than clarifying the Scriptures for English readers, ultimately obscures their meaning by intentionally gutting the Bible of significant vocabulary and grammatical forms found in the original languages – that do have English parallels, if translators care to take into consideration not just the limits of “conversational English,” but the full capacity of the English language to carry objective meaning – making it ever more difficult for the English reader to find and rely on “direct positive statements of Scripture,” and thus also statements that are, by definition, clear. Such translation ideologies gravely endanger the Perspicuity of Scripture in the name of making it accessible for the marginally literate English reader, they threaten to drive the laity of the Church ever deeper into a general illiteracy and intellectual incapacity such as was common in medieval times, and they certainly ought not be vaunted in Christ’s Church as the standard English form of Holy Writ in all teaching and publications.

Nevertheless, Faith Church proceeded to officially adopt the NIV 2011 as the congregation’s translation.

This was not the reason we left Faith Church and the WELS, however; it was merely the straw that broke the camels back.

A few months prior, we were warned by the Rev. Wxxxx to “prepare” our sixth grade boy, who had just entered Catechism, for a discussion of the Sixth Commandment. Finding it a bit ridiculous to rush him through “sex-ed” just to prepare him for Catechism class, we refused to go to such lengths, insisting that such matters need to be handled delicately with children his age, that discussion of sexual activity in any direct terms would be entirely out of bounds, and that there is very little basis for understanding the Sixth Commandment anyway, without a thorough positive grounding in biblical courtship and marriage – deviation from which would itself serve as a glaring example of something that is sinful.

Then we read the catechism that would be used by the Reverend to instruct our young boy, which was written by one Rev. David Kuske. In comparison with the catechism resources we afterward recommended he use instead for the Sixth Commandment lesson (Gausewitz or Koehler), Kuske goes into excessively lurid detail of sexual intercourse, including what kind of sex to have, when to have it, and how enjoyable it should be. The Rev. Wxxxx forcefully rejected use of the alternative resources we suggested (which were, in our opinion, better by orders of magnitude, without all of the direct sex-talk and associated imagery), and when we opted to keep our son home rather than attend his lesson, were indirectly criticized by him for our parenting decisions. In retrospect, given all of the sexual scandals in WELS that have been made public over the past year, and the many more that are roiling just under the surface, we wonder now whether Kuske’s catechism might have something to do with it – whether, in our over-sexed day and age, introducing direct sex-talk with sixth-grade boys and girls is a bit premature for these youngsters, and puts images in their minds that they might otherwise be inclined to struggle against, had their pastor not been the one who put them there using Synod materials that carry the approval of the Church. Given this, it is no wonder the current generation of WELS theologians prefers the NIV 2011’s use of the phrases “make love” (Ge. 4:1,17,2529:21,23,3038:2Ru. 4:131 Sa. 1:192 Sa. 11:1112:241 Ch. 2:217:23Is. 8:3; etc.) and “have sex” (Ge. 19:5Jud. 19:221 Co. 6:9) – phrases and imagery thought in previous generations to be far too indelicate to implant in the minds of pious Christians, who were probably also averse to using such terms for fear that they would indirectly reinforce immoral standards cherished by the world and ignite fleshly desires, against which Christians already struggle.

About a month after Mr. Lxxxxx’s final face-to-face conversation with the Rev. Wxxxx, he was called by the Reverend on the telephone. Mr. Lxxxxx made clear that he meant what he had said in January, and that we were looking for another congregation. He told him that we were, at that time, investigating other WELS congregations, along with LCMS congregations. The Reverend assured him that we remained members in good standing, that if we found a suitable WELS congregation he would be glad to transfer us, and if not, then we would be simply released from membership. We never heard from him again. In all of this time, we were contacted by no one from the congregation out of evangelical concern, or even curiosity, over our extended absence, save one person. We received from the congregation what we had come to expect since 2008: near deafening silence.

We quickly found that there were no suitable WELS congregations within reasonable traveling distance. In the end, we found that among those WELS congregations which seemed intent upon demonstrating their Confession through a wholesome liturgical practice, seemed uncorrupted by ambitions of glory, seemed unwilling to give place to worldly entertainment standards in their worship chambers, seemed confident in the Holy Spirit’s work through the Means of Grace to Call, Gather and Enlighten His Elect, and seemed content to allow Him to work in His way, through His Means, in His time, unaugmented by their own innovations, Faith Church was to be most commended in regard to its NIV 2011 deliberations: where Faith Church actually had the courage to at least publicly identify “Bible translation” as an issue, and to go through the motions of publicly addressing that issue (although, with a planned outcome all the while, given that a single source of admittedly biased materials was all that they consulted), all of the other WELS congregations we visited simply started using the NIV 2011 without discussion, without the people even knowing it – when we asked, we learned that the new Bibles just showed up in the pews one Sunday, and no one knew the difference. We could not abide such cowardice.

Of all the other options in our area, there was one ELS congregation and two LCMS congregations that were in many ways very suitable. But we decided that we were unwilling to dance around the issue of Universal Justification, merely for the convenience of attending those congregations.

Universal Justification” is the teaching espoused by name in the WELS, and with one name or another by ELS and LCMS, as the centerpiece of Christian teaching – the doctrine on which the Church stands or falls. It asserts that all mankind, including every individual, is righteous before God, and forgiven of his sins, whether he has faith or not. The natural, and fully accepted and confessed, consequence of this teaching is that those who die without faith, though they are righteous and forgiven by God, nevertheless spend an eternity barking in hell – not as punishment for their sins (since no one bears sin before God under the teaching of Universal Justification), but merely for their lack of faith. Thus they are willing to accept the teaching that righteous and forgiven saints spend an eternity in hell. The doctrine of Universal Justification, however, is nowhere named, described, or articulated in the Scriptures. It is a purely derived doctrine, without a single word of direct positive attestation in the entirety of Holy Writ.

In all, however, according to the Rev. Dr. Siegbert Becker in his essay Universal Justification, there are a total of three distinct doctrines of Justification taught by WELS. The first is Universal Justification. The second distinct doctrine of Justification, which is merely a corollary of Universal Justification, is “Objective Justification.” It teaches that God, and not man, is entirely responsible for man’s Justification. Such a teaching is not peculiar to WELS, or to Lutherans for that matter; for even the Calvinists do not deny that Justification is objective in this sense. However, WELS, ELS and LCMS seem to assert that Objective Justification also defines “faith” as “man’s work”, and therefore insist that claiming Justification comes by faith is thus to assert a doctrine of synergism. Normally, Universal and Objective Justification are conflated by them, and referred to as “Universal Objective Justification,” but, Becker makes clear, they are, in fact, distinct doctrines, with Objective Justification merely a happy consequence of Universal Justification.

The third distinct doctrine of Justification espoused by the old Synodical Conference Lutherans is so-called “Subjective Justification” – the only doctrine of Justification spoken of and articulated in the Scriptures, and the doctrine identified in the Lutheran Confessions as the main doctrine of Christianity. Except, the Scriptures don’t name it “Subjective Justification”; the Scriptures and the Lutheran Confessions refer to this doctrine interchangeably as “Justification” and “Justification by Faith Alone.” According to WELS, “Subjective Justification” is entirely superfluous. All of mankind is already righteous and forgiven before God (they say); Justification does NOT come though faith, since that is man’s work, and to suggest that faith is in any way the cause of Justification (even an “instrumental cause”, as it was defined by Leyser and Gerhard) only robs God of the glory He is due for the work He has already accomplished. Subjective Justification (they say), isn’t “Justification” at all, properly speaking – it’s merely “the reception of faith,” and with it merely “receiving the benefit” of the righteous and forgiven standing they, and all men, have had in the eyes of God since the time of Christ’s death and resurrection. Prior to faith (they say), all of mankind is already Justified – fully righteous and forgiven before God – but is denied “enjoyment” of this Justification until God gives him faith.

According to the Bible and the Confessions, however, “Justification by Faith Alone” is the only doctrine of Justification that is taught; mankind (including every individual) is NOT already Justified before God, he is already Condemned; the unbeliever is NOT already righteous and forgiven before God, but stands before God in the filth of his own sin, in need of righteousness and forgiveness; this Justification was earned by Christ in His Passion, and is now offered to mankind in the Message of the Gospel, via which the Holy Spirit works to produce faith; and a person is said to be Justified when the promise of Salvation has been appropriated to himself through the faith God gives him, and not before.


Woods was a famous Calvinist,
so why are WELS, LCMS, and the ELS bewitched by a
Calvinist translating  a Halle Pietist textbook?
Answer – because Walther copied Stephan’s Halle Pietism.


Frankly, it was a shock to us to learn that WELS, ELS and (it seems) LCMS all believe, teach and confess a doctrine of Universal Justification. This fact was withheld from us during Bible Information Class (adult catechism). The fact is:

  • We reject the doctrine of Universal Justification as without a scintilla of Scriptural or Confessional support;
  • We reject as Scripturally unfounded and as entirely fallacious reasoning the assertion that Justification must be Universal in order for it to be objective, or to be accomplished entirely outside of man;
  • We, rather, fully embrace and confess the doctrine of Justification by Faith Alone;
  • We, further, confess and insist that the doctrine of Justification by Faith Alone is the only doctrine of Justification taught by the Scriptures in direct positive terms, and that it is therefore the only Scripturally defensible doctrine of Justification that Christians may confess;
  • We fully reject the assertion that faith is in any way man’s work (the Scriptures directly forbid this notion), and we therefore reject the assertion that Justification by Faith Alone is a doctrine of synergism;
  • We reject the assertion that “Objective Justification” is a doctrine of Scripture which is taught in distinction from Justification by Faith Alone, and find it impermissible to define “Objective Justification” as any kind of justification at all;
  • We, rather, confess that the objectivity of Justification is a defining attribute of the doctrine of Justification by Faith Alone, and insist that Justification by Faith Alone does, indeed, constitute a fully objective Justification – that is, our Justification is accomplished fully outside of us, without any merit or participation of our own in any sense;
  • We confess with confidence and rejoicing that faith is a gift of the Holy Spirit;
  • We reject as flippant hyperbole the assertion that saving faith, under the doctrine of Justification by Faith Alone, is reduced to merely “a profound hope that man conjures within himself”;
  • We further confess in this regard, that it is fully biblical to speak of faith being active (i.e., receiving, appropriating, trusting, etc.), without it also being considered volitional and thus synergistic;
  • We recognize that the doctrine of Justification by Faith Alone is the only doctrine of Justification confessed in the Lutheran Confessions, and was the only doctrine of Justification directly named and taught by the orthodox Confessors and Concordists;
  • We further recognize that a form of Universal Justification was asserted by a heterodox member of the Wittenberg Faculty, a teacher whose doctrine was roundly condemned by his orthodox peers, and who was dismissed in 1595 for clinging to his false doctrine – for denying that Justification is restricted to believers;
  • We therefore reject as unfounded fiction and utterly preposterous all claims that Universal Justification is “implicitly taught in the Lutheran Confessions,” that it was understood, embraced and taught by the Confessors and Concordists without ever being named or articulated by them, and that it must therefore bind the consciences of any Christian today who would lay claim to an orthodox confession;
  • We recognize the introduction of Universal Justification and its corollary teachings in American Lutheranism, as a biblically indefensible innovation of the old Synodical Conference.

Putting the best construction on our experiences, and despite any appearances that might cause some to conclude otherwise, we assume, Faith Church, that you are, in fact, possessed of great evangelical concern over our plight, and though, over the course of a full year, you exerted no effort to find out from us directly, we also assume that you are nevertheless deeply interested to know how we fare today.

We have found a Lutheran congregation. It is a congregation affiliated with the Evangelical Lutheran Diocese of North America (ELDoNA). Of this congregation, we are happy to say:

  • They are confessional – that is, they understand the dire need for a clear Christian confession in a sinful world where otherwise well-meaning believers, as victims of sin’s corruption, everywhere misunderstand and pervert the Scripture’s teaching;
  • They fully subscribe to the Lutheran Confessions, as articulated in the Christian Book of Concord, not insofar as they are a correct presentation and exposition of the pure doctrine of the Word of God, but boldly confessing before the world and other Christians, that they are so;
      in particular:

    • They positively reject the doctrine of Universal Justification, and instead, believe, teach and confess the single Scriptural and Confessional doctrine of Justification by Faith Alone – the very doctrine for which Luther and his fellow confessors struggled so mightily, risking their lives that it would be preserved to the Church for the eternal benefit of mankind;
    • They do not confuse laity with clergy – that is, laymen are NOT considered Ministers of the Word, and are NOT tasked with carrying out the functions of the pastoral Office;
    • They fully trust the Holy Spirit to work through His appointed Means, and being confident in the efficacy of those Means and content with His timing, do not feel compelled to augment His work with their own innovations;
    • Not merely mouthing the words of their confession, they endeavor to make manifest this confession, maintaining in the Divine Service a wholesome liturgical practice that unmistakably demonstrates Lutheran catholicity, rather than supplanting it with the obnoxious sectarian practices of pop-church evangelicalism.
  • They are conservative – that is, rather than dispose of their Lutheran birthright (which, on order to keep it, requires much honour, trust, patience and a keen awareness of the past) for an immediately satisfying bowl of sectarian and worldly porridge (which, if it satisfies at all, does so merely for the moment, soon afterward requiring the satiation of new and different cravings), they endeavor to carry into the future that great deposit of wisdom wrought of Christian experience over the millenia. Thus they endeavor to conserve the past, rather than discard it as quaint, passé and irrelevant in favor of the wisdom of the day;
      in particular:

    • They reject (as far as we can tell) the post-Modern philosophies of contemporary times, which represent a full frontal attack on the very morality of language itself, mightily threatening the Church, not by changing the words She confesses before the world, but by dramatically altering that Confession in place – altering the meaning of Her Confession by altering the structures of language employed to express it;
    • They have chosen to use and promote a wholesome translation of the Scriptures which not just theoretically, butmanifestly honours the doctrine of inspiration, retaining in English as much as practicable, both the grammatical forms and the vocabulary found in the Greek and Hebrew originals, and which honours the tradition of English ecclesiastical thought and expression by maintaining continuity with the English translation Received by English speaking peoples over 400 years ago as the Bible in English, and that continues to this day as a dominant Bible translation preferred by English speakers;
    • They hold that it is wise practice for the Church to maintain a sharp distinction from the world in Her practice, including the use of terminology in their catechesis and during the Divine Service, which maintains a continuity with the past and which reinforces the “other worldly” reality of the believer’s citizenship in the Kingdom of Grace.


And to top it all off:

  • They – like Lutherans across the globe (in our experience) – are just plain nice folks.


Unfortunately, this congregation, being a two-hour drive for us, is not very conveniently located. We are not able to attend weekly, as we would like, but endeavor to attend at least twice monthly. When we are unable to attend, however, we do take time to worship as a family in our home, following a modified form of “The Order of Morning Service” from The Lutheran Hymnal (pg. 5), and reading from Luther’s Postils for the Sermon. This works very nicely.

If the truth be told, however, we started this practice of home worship years before finally leaving the WELS. We began to notice that there was a consistent dearth of Law in the preaching and teaching, not only of Faith Church, but in every WELS church we visited. The emphasis on the Gospel was so smothering that the Law, if present at all, was virtually indiscernible. While both of us had grown up within pop-church Evanglicalism and among confessing Pietists, were fully acquainted with the Law, and personally found Law-less Gospel preaching a sufficient (and welcome) balance to the smotheringly Gospel-less Law preaching we had been reared with, the impact on our children, who, over a decade had only become familiar with the Gospel, was unmistakably negative. Having literally no acquaintance with the Law, they failed to place any real significance on the Gospel, taking for granted that they were already forgiven and righteous regardless of what they do, as if they were entitled to it. The result was behaviour issues of various kinds, a general disregard for God’s Word, and a failure to respond to correction which was drawn from it. We appealed at various times to our WELS pastors for more Law in their preaching, so that there would be a more discernible balance between Law and Gospel, but when our requests were dismissed – sometimes with ridicule for being “lovers of the Law” – we realized that there would be no changing their nearly Law-less Gospel preaching. Mrs. Lxxxxx had finally grown so fed up with the fact that our children had not imbibed the Law in any significant way from our association with WELS, that she began taking them through the Book of Proverbs every month, and visiting with them other sections of the Bible that emphasize Law – like the Book of James. This had quite an impact. As the the older children would read the Proverbs, they would stop, read it again, gulp, and say things like, “Oh, boy…” They had no idea. At one point, Mrs. Lxxxxx even suggested, somewhat facetiously, that we leave Lutheranism entirely, and go back to Pietism, just so that our children could be acquainted with the Law through the teaching of the Church, and finally come to appreciate the Gospel. Needless to say, that is not what we did. Instead, we started reading Luther’s sermons for semi-regular family worship, in place of attending Faith Church every Sunday. Luther is very direct in his preaching of the Law, and equally so in his preaching of the Gospel, nearly every sermon being very well balanced between the two. It is unlike any preaching we had heard over the past four decades, including the last fifteen years of association with WELS. Acquaintance with the Law has helped with discipline in the home, too, and improved our family’s appreciation for the Gospel.

Finally – you may be interested to know – there is informal, though very serious, discussion of opening a Lutheran mission congregation in our area (River Falls, Hudson, New Richmond, Baldwin, etc.), of confessional and conservative character similar to the congregation in which we currently enjoy membership. The intent would be to use our family, and perhaps other interested individuals, to seed this mission. Efforts are underway, now, to investigate possible meeting places.

Ta Ta for Now,

Lxxxxx

COMMENTS:

Anonymous said…

Thank you for posting this excellent letter. I appreciate not only the effort taken to provide a clear and concise explanation of Justification by Faith Alone, but also the perseverance in finding a faithful church home.
Jami Thomas

Rev. Paul A. Rydecki said…

Yes, excellent letter, Mr. Lindee! I pray that many others will follow your example of faithfulness and commitment to sound doctrine and to a fellowship that teaches and practices authentic Lutheranism. Sadly, that fellowship is not the WELS, for as much as you and I had, at one time, hoped it would be. But happily, by God’s grace, we have found such a fellowship. Welcome to the ELDoNA!

Thomas S said…

From https://m.facebook.com/groups/1649010391990081?view=permalink&id=1826075187616933

1. The “translation committee” that even implicitly accepted the NIV ’11 made the 2nd worst possible decision for the future of our synod (the worst, explicitly accepting the ’11). Any congregation that unequivocally accepts the NIV ’11 as a standard can hardly be said to possess the unaltered Word, and falls under the curse of Galatians 1 and Revelation 22.

I thank God for the Wartburg Translation. A confessional translation should have been directly and immediately supported by our Synod, undertaken as an act or worship. All considered, I suppose something so important can’t be left to the Synod. Until then my NKJV will do.

2. Universal Justification IS Universalism.

Christ died for the sins of the world, but without faith there is no “imputation” or “declaration” of righteousness – universal atonement certainly, but not justification. Conflating objective and universal justification, or even worse, adding philosophical shenanigans to what the epistles state plainly, is an error. It works for Real Presence – “This IS my body/blood” is as clear as “By grace you have been saved through faith”! Philosophy is properly used to understand and describe what the Word says, not define it.

I agree with the definitions of Objective and Subjective Justification contained in the article/letter, but better still they are precisely what the Bible teaches clearly. Objective and Subjective as terms are unnecessary – they both state, from different perspectives, that we have no propitiatory agency in our salvation, and that the works of both redemption and faith are wholly God’s. Simple Justification is Justification by Faith Alone.

Anonymous said…

Douglas,

About your 2011 NIV observations:

“… all of the other WELS congregations we visited simply started using the NIV 2011 without discussion, without the people even knowing it – when we asked, we learned that the new Bibles just showed up in the pews one Sunday, and no one knew the difference. We could not abide such cowardice.”

Yes, they can’t defend a practice or an action based on Scripture, and don’t want to talk about it, so they sneak it in, and hope no one will notice until it has been going on for awhile. Once it is established, there is no turning back. The approach is similar with church growth practices. And when people express concern or ask for an explanation about the changes, there is little or no response. And the practice continues until it is well established, and then there is no turning back. 

Vernon


Anonymous said…
As a former WELS layman who left in November 2012, I have long been struggling with my decision (leaving behind my daughter’s wonderful family and long-time friends with whom I worshipped for decades). The persistent council of my pastor and loving members of my current (ELDoNA) congregation have kept me reassured but still a doubt lingered. Your explanation of the false teaching of Universal Objective Justification was very clear and a wonderful blessing to receive this Easter Eve. I finally see that the long established WELS teaching of universal objective justification is not found in scripture nor the Book of Concord. What a wonderful blessing it is to have God’s true Word, your letter, and my shepherd, Pastor Rydecki.

Reed Elliott
Emmanuel Ev. Lutheran Church

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Ichabod, The Glory Has Departed: Ron Pederson and Jay Webber Try To Lead WELS Discussions Readers into the Abyss of Rationalistic Pietism. Boycott the Emmaus Conference

Wednesday, April 8, 2015

Ron Pederson and Jay Webber Try To Lead WELS Discussions Readers into the Abyss of Rationalistic Pietism.
Boycott the Emmaus Conference

Stephan allowed two responses to his cultic revelations –
agree or apologize,
just like the Synodical Conference today.
Walther learned justification from Halle University trained Martin Stephan.
Stephan was not qualified to be a pastor but was ordained because of his affiliation
with the Bohemian Pietists.
The Walther circle gathered around one abusive guru of Pietism,
switching to Stephan when the first one died.






“God was in Christ reconciling the world to himself, not counting men’s sins against them” (2 Cor 5:19).


What did Jesus accomplish by His life, death and resurrection? Did He accomplish a potential forgiveness that is true only when we believe it? Is our faith like some kind of magical genie that brings the forgiveness of sins into existence? If the forgiveness of sins is not already there, what is faith to believe? [Circular reasoning with a platoon of straw men]


Our faith does not bring the forgiveness of sins into existence. On the contrary it is the forgiveness of sins that brings our faith into existence. Our Catechism has a name for it: The means of grace. St Paul writes: “How can they believe in the one of whom they have not heard?… Consequently, faith comes from hearing the message, and the message is heard through the word about Christ” (Rom 10:14, 17). [But Ron is teaching grace without the Means of Grace.]

In human relationships one person sins against another person. Sometimes the person sinned against forgives the person who sinned against them (sic). Whether or not the person who sinned believes it or accepts the forgiveness has nothing to do with the fact that they have been forgiven by the person they sinned against. The person who sinned had no part in the other person forgiving them. The forgiveness came from the heart of the person who was sinned against. [False analogy]
We sinned against God. The whole human race sinned against God. God says to the whole world, in Christ, [false, “in Christ” only means believers]  because His atoning sacrifice for your sin, I forgive you. [<–Incoherent sentence] You may not believe it or accept it but that doesn’t change what God has determined in His heart. [JP Meyer’s Decision Theology]
That does not mean that the whole human race is saved and will be heaven. Only those who put their personal trust in God’s forgiveness will be saved. Those who reject it will have to pay for their own sins in the torments of hell for all eternity.
That is what Jesus accomplished by His life, death and resurrection. We sinned against God and He says to us, to all people, to the whole world, I forgive you in Christ. Confess you (sic) sin and believe it, trust in it and “Behold the Lamb of God who takes away the sins of the world” (John 1:29). [John 1:29 does not teach UOJ.]
  • 11 people like this.
  • Daniel Baker What heretical nonsense. God did not say “I forgive you” to the whole world. He has and continues to say “you are condemned” (St. John 3:18) because the whole world is not, in any sense, “in Christ,” nor does it have faith in Him.

  • Christian Schulz Yeah, don’t remember the lepers being healed before their faith. But go ‘head and keep peddling that Huberianism.

  • Daniel Baker Very salient example, Christian. “Thy faith hath made thee whole.” Or as the Lord said to the sinful woman: “Thy faith hath saved thee. Go in peace.” Faith does not create forgiveness; the Word of God does that. But it is the God-given method whereby sinners are declared righteous, made whole, and saved.

  • David Jay Webber You can’t criticize objective justification because you think it contradicts the law – which condemns all who reject Christ and do not believe. Objective justification is a species of the gospel. And the gospel ~always~ “contradicts” the law!

  • Joel Dusek Rev. Pederson, your argumet is self-contradictory. If sin is what separates us from God, and all sins of all men for all time are ALREADY forgiven, it does not follow that not all men will be saved. If all people have been already been declared righteous, no one will have to “pay for their own sins in…hell….” Is not “put[ting] their personal trust in God’s forgiveness” the very definition of Faith? Therefore, by your own argument, it is Faith (personal trust) which delivers the forgiveness, atonement, redemption won on the cross. Without Faith there is no forgiveness; only those with Faith are forgiven.
    Happy Easter, He Is Risen!
  • David Jay Webber ” Rev. Pederson, your argument is self-contradictory.” That’s like saying that the gospel contradicts the law. Yes, it does.

  • Daniel Baker I for one am not criticizing universal justification because it contradicts the Law. I’m criticizing it because it negates the Law entirely for the unbelieving. But Scripture is clear that the unbelieving world is condemned on account of the Law on its heart, which it has failed to follow. Jesus is clear that the unbelieving world stands condemned ALREADY; it is not re-condemned after rejecting its universal pardon of its initial condemnation.

  • Ron Pederson Ron Pederson Luther writes. “Even he who does not believe that he is free and his sins forgiven shall also learn, in due time, how assuredly his sins were forgiven, even though he did not believe it … He who does not accept what the keys give receives, of course, nothing. But that is not the key’s fault. Many do not believe the gospel, but this does not mean that the gospel is not true or effective. A king gives you a castle. If you do not accept it, then it is not the king’s fault, nor is he guilty of a lie. But you have deceived yourself and the fault is yours. The king certainly gave it.” LW 40, 366f [This means Christ atoned for the sins of the world, not that sins of the unbelieving world were all absolved and everyone saved.]

  • Joel Dusek Rev. Webber, interesting thesis. How does the Gospel contradict the Law? Isn’t the Gospel – the life, death and resurrection of Christ for the forgiveness of sins – the fulfillment of the Law, not a contradiction of it?
  • William Miller Perhaps those who object to the doctrine of universal justification would like to provide a persuasive exegesis of I I Cor 5:19. If it means something other than what it says, this will surely be revealed by your scholarly analysis of the grammar. In the absence of this, I will happily bear the accusation of heresy along with Ron Pederson and St. Paul, and sing praise to the lamb of God who took away the sins of the world, yes, even those of this heretic. [This argument comes from Pietists like Rambach, Stephan, and Walther, but the Word of God does not support the assumptions.]

  • Ron Pederson Objective and subjective justification. [The OJ and SJ terms come from the Calvinist translator of Knappe’s Halle University lectures.]
  • Each doctrine is one complete whole but that whole can also have different sides and angles. And it has proved necessary for the church dissect a doctrine in order to keep the whole undefiled and to expose false doctrine as Martin Chemnitz has done in great detail in his classic “The Two Natures of Christ.” [Yes, Chemnitz teaches justification by faith and does not use 1 Timothy 3:16 to advocate universal forgiveness and salvation.]

    Scripture teaches that there is only one Christ but that one Christ also has two natures: God and man. The Athanasian Creed says: “Who although he is God and Man; yet he is not two, but one Christ. One; not by conversion of the Godhead into flesh; but by assumption of the Manhood into God. One altogether; not by confusion of Essence; but by unity of Person.” 

    The same could be said of the doctrine of justification. We can speak of one, whole justification by faith. But yet when we examine the Scriptures we see that there are two sides to that one justification: objective justification and subjective justification. [False analogy, moving from a Confession to a dogma of Pietism, Universalism, and Adventism.]
  • Ron Pederson I think it is important also to note that I wouldn’t necessarily make a judgment on anyone’s personal faith when they disagree with what I have said about objective justification. In the end they very likely are in agreement in their own hearts (a fortunate inconsistency which I and probably every Christian has experienced and will experience again). But yet it is important to clearly articulate what a doctrine is, so that it can be more firmly cemented in the heart (the heart and mind in agreement) and so that a doctrine or all doctrines as a whole, remain intact and pure. [Gee thanks, Ron, but you qualify judgment, as you must, because you specialize in attacking faith and promoting falsehood.]
  • David Jay Webber The law says, you are condemned because of your sin. The gospel says, you are forgiven because of Christ’s redemption. In a certain sense, these two statements contradict each other. The overall ~doctrines~ of law and gospel do not contradict each other, but the bare statements of condemnation and forgiveness, in effect, do. These statements are each telling me something different, as the law drives me to repentance, and as the gospel then draws me to Christ. This is the mystery of law and gospel – the distinction between the righteousness that God demands, and the righteousness that God gives. Objective justification is a reality in Christ, for all for whom he died and rose again. It is a component of the gospel – a component of the righteousness that God gives. Objective justification is not a component of the law, or a negation of the law. It is not a component of the righteousness that God demands. [Luther warned that the three great attacks against Christianity focused on the divinity of Christ, the humanity of Christ, and justification by faith. Jay, you constantly mislead everyone by pretending “in Christ” means something other than those who believe in Him. Hindus and atheists are not “in Christ.”]

  • Joel Dusek Interesting. Thanks.
  • David Jay Webber If you’re anywhere close to the Pacific Northwest, please do come! http://theemmausconference.org/ (Dates: April 22-23)

    A paper on Objective Justification, presented by Rev. Jon Buchholz to the WELS Arizona/California District,…
    THEEMMAUSCONFERENCE.ORG



  • Daniel Baker I’ll share the response of the opponents of Huber, your forbear in the doctrine of universal justification, concerning what 2 Corinthians 5:19 actually means: 


    Paul never teaches universal justification. For with regard to the passage
     in 2 Cor. 5, those words, “not imputing sins to them,” are not to be understood universally concerning all men without respect to faith. For although the Apostle does not expressly mention faith there, nonetheless no mention is ever made in the Scriptures of an imputation where a consideration of faith is excluded. For just as God imputes righteousness to no one except for the believer, so also it is to believers only that He does not impute sins.
    Paul expressly teaches this very thing in Rom. 4: “Not to the one who works, but to the one who believes in Him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is imputed as righteousness.” And: “Blessed is the man to whom the Lord has not imputed sin.” Paul refers these words to the justification of faith, through which sins are remitted to a man, or in other words, not imputed. And such a man is pronounced blessed. But no one is blessed and saved without faith. Now, if those words are to be understood universally concerning all men, according to Huber’s opinion, then all men would be blessed and saved, for he is said to be blessed to whom God does not impute sins.
    How is it, then, according to the declaration of Christ, that “he who does not believe has been condemned already”? How does the wrath of God remain on him (John 3)? And since unbelievers have already been condemned, therefore their sins are imputed to them, and consequently those words of the Apostle are not to be understood universally and simply concerning any and all men, both believers and unbelievers. Rather, they include the means revealed in the Word of God, namely, a consideration of faith. That is, that God does not impute sins to men if they believe in Christ the Propitiator. If they do not believe, their sins are imputed to them, and they are condemned on account of them.
    The same thing is revealed in the Book of Concord, page 657, where it says this: “For justification, these things are required and necessary: the grace of God, the merit of Christ, and FAITH, which embraces these very benefits of God in the promise of the Gospel. In this way (that is, through faith), the righteousness of Christ is imputed to us.” And shortly before: “The righteousness of faith before God consists in the free and most gracious imputation of the righteousness of Christ (apart from any merit of our works). That is, that sins have been remitted to us and covered, nor are they imputed to us.” The meaning, therefore, of the Apostle’s words is: “not imputing sins to them by the means ordained in God’s Word.” Indeed, if the words are to be understood simply, without a consideration of faith, then why does God condemn the world to which God, according to Huber’s opinion, does not impute sins?


    Cf. http://www.intrepidlutherans.com/…/the-lutheran…

  • David Jay Webber The false teaching of Huber, which Hunnius correctly says St. Paul never teaches, is summarized by Hunnius as follows:


    “Huber professes such a justification, for the sake of which Christ has properly, actually and practically conferred redemption on t
    he entire human race in such a way that sins have been equally remitted to all men, including the Turks, and that all men (including unbelievers) have received remission of sins, and that the whole human race has, in actual fact, been received into the grace and bosom of God.”

    The orthodox Lutheran doctrine of objective justification does not maintain that redemption has been ~actually conferred~ on the human race, or that all men have ~received~ remission of sins. So, Hunnius’s arguments against Huber’s incorrect teaching on these points cannot simply be brought to bear against the sound teaching of orthodox Lutherans today. What they teach regarding objective justification is in fact comparable to what Hunnius himself taught in his Theses Against Huberism, where he stated that “we steadfastly teach that Christ, by the decree, counsel, ordination, good pleasure and command of the eternal Father, has freed each and every mortal, without any exception at any time or in any place, from sin, death and eternal damnation.” [How is Huber different from you, O Jay? How does he differ from Knappe, Schleiermacher,  Martin Stephan, the Great Walther, JP Meyer?]

  • Steven E. Anderson Scripture says the wrath of God abides upon the unbeliever. To say that the grace and forgiveness and justification of God abides upon the unbeliever would be a denial and perversion of scripture.
  • David Jay Webber Which is why no Lutheran teaches this.
  • Daniel Baker Regardless, it is clear from the orthodox opponents of Huber that 2 Corinthians 5:19 can NOT be referring to all men. So I would like to see a different proof passage proving the universal declaration of righteousness for all men.

  • Christian Schulz Huber’s words:

    But I called universal justification that by which God, considering the satisfaction of Christ, became favorably disposed toward the entire human race because of that satisfaction, and thus he accepted it just as if everyone had made sa
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  • Christian Schulz And Pieper:

    “God no longer looks upon sinful man with wrath, but ‘before His divine tribunal’ forgives the sins of mankind, does not impute their trespasses unto them (2 Cor. 5:19). (CHRISTIAN DOGMATICS, by Francis Pieper, Volume 2, pages 398 & 399)

  • David Jay Webber A part of the problem back then was Huber’s confused understanding and use of certain terms. But a part of the problem was also that Hunnius was influenced too much by Aristotelian causation thinking, which departed from Luther’s way of doing theology in general, and from Luther’s way of explaining justification and forgiveness in particular. The same weak scholastic tendency that caused Hunnius to overcorrect Huber, is what caused him to overcorrect Calvinism by teaching intuitu fidei, and to overcorrect Roman abuses of the sacrament by teaching receptionism. Hunnius’s teaching that faith is a “cause” of justification is a prime example of how he didn’t really get this completely straight, even as Huber didn’t get this straight either.

  • Ron Pederson For me it all comes down to two positions:


    1. The sins of the world are forgiven in Christ and I am saved when I place my faith in that forgiveness. (The orthodox Lutheran position) [Ron, you are watering down the Pietist tradition, making it appear to be in harmony with the Christian Faith. Jay’s catechumen, Jon Buchholz, says the entire unbelieving world is saved. Besides that, “in Christ” only applies to believers, so your confused muddle goes nowhere.]


    2. The sins of the world are not forgiven in Christ, but if I believe I am forgiven in Christ, then I am. (The synergistic position) [Is Paul a synergist? Romans 4:24 – “if we believe”]

  • Steven E. Anderson Doesn’t #2 assume faith is a work of man?
  • Ron Pederson Good observation Steven. It sure does.
  • Joel Dusek And it’s a good thing no Lutheran (at least in this current controversy) is advocating the second option. That would certainly be fideism, a work of Man. 

    I believe you set up a false dichotomy in those two positions, sir. I think the points would be:
    1. All sins are atoned for and all men are already justified, and when a man is brought to faith by the Spirit he realizes his justification. 
    2. All sins are atoned for, and when a man is brought to faith by the Spirit he receives his justification. 
    To stick my toe in the pool of terminology, my take is that Justification is always and only objective – that is, solely because of Christ’s work, not Man’s. It is not, however, universal. 
    I think this is a very narrow theological point, and worthy of discussion. As others have stated, neither side of the debate (mostly) in WELS, LCMS, ELS, or ELDoNA are advocating Universalism – all are saved no matter what – or Fideism – faith itself saves.
    It would have been great to have discussions before accusations, dismissals, and marking-and-avoiding were done. [Luther called himself a fideist, but the UOJ heretics keep making “faith” something evil. Do not catch their contagion.]

  • Joe Jewell It’s an excellent idea not to allow caricatures to overtake the reality of a confession as expressed by those who are actually making it.


    I’ve noticed a tendency to do this on both sides of this debate (indeed in just about any debate). As a slightly 
    less emotive example, go visit LutherQuest and watch W/ELS and LCMS pastors go at it over Church and Ministry. Hammer and tongs, much of it very “definitional” (each side insisting on defining the others’ terms, then making an argument based entirely on the pet definition)–and this on a doctrine for which there was apparently broad (enough) consensus even at the time of the Synodical Conference breakup! [Joe – is justification by faith a caricature? Please document one example, but do not include Luther, because he has a wealth of names for false teachers, compromisers, and backpeddlers.]

  • David Jay Webber JoelYour option two, as far as it goes, is the correct view. One of the main evangelical points of the objective justification teaching, is that justification is ~received by~ faith. It is not ~created in~ faith. And I think it is too intellectual to say that receiving justification by faith is “realizing” one’s justification. Christ himself is justified on behalf of the world for which he died and rose again, and therefore in Christ the world is justified. To receive this as an individual, is to be justified by faith as an individual. I suppose there is some intellectual “realization” going on. But that’s not the essence of the faith by which an individual is justified.


    And there certainly are some people in this debate who would take strong exception to the statement that “the sins of the world are forgiven in Christ.” [The camel toe is at the door of the tent, ready to push all the way in, and this page welcomes the effort. Once again, Jay is bouncing off the UOJ of Rambach and other misguided Pietists.]

  • Ron Pederson Joel, you say that God has atoned for the sins of the world and there is other terminology too that falls short of saying the sins of the world are forgiven in Christ. And as Jay said, all of that is correct “as far as it goes”. I would add that it is even good and useful terminology when presenting the gospel. 


    But to say that God has only atoned for the sins of the world and has not forgiven the sins of the world in Christ creates a problem, maybe even an inconsistency. 

    On the one hand it is said that faith is not meritorious to forgiveness and does not create the forgiveness but then when my faith is added a change takes place in the heart of God. Now, not only is my sin atoned for, It is also forgiven. So my faith, something in me, produced a change from atonement to forgiveness in the heart of God. 
    On a personal note, Joel, I struggled with this issue too. And I can certainly understand why someone would have questions regarding it. The false teaching of universalism is probably the main concern most people have. But in the end it always has to be “what does the bible say?”. [They pretend to be Christians, but eventually the fangs come out and the claws reach for their victims. Not the constant false use of “in Christ.” UOJ is nothing more than belittling justification by faith, replacing it with their odd, rationalistic, Pietistic, and Calvinist dogma.]

    19 hrs · Edited ·  · 3

  • Ron Pederson Jesus said “it is finished”. [UOJ fanatics turn Jesus’ dying words into an endorsement of their false doctrine. They find UOJ in Romans 4, which is all about Abraham and us being justified by faith. They yell Romans 4:25! and omit Romans 4:24 on purpose.]
    22 hrs · Edited ·  · 1

  • Joel Dusek Thanks for your thoughts, Revs. Webber and Pederson. For the record, though, I’m not struggling with this. I had my moments of inquiry and study a couple years ago when a pastor in New Mexico was removed from his fellowship after he suggested that Justification was being taught incorrectly. Not being a trained theologian myself, I had to study it using materials and references from a variety of sources. Both sides cited the Scripture and Confessions to support their position, and much meaning was lost in a squall of terminology. 

    In the end, I am confident that Christ suffered, died, and rose to vicariously atone for the sins of the entire world, to propitiate God’s wrath and justice, and to secure the forgiveness of sins for all people. However, I am confident that any statement that implies or asserts that ALL people are ALREADY forgiven is incorrect, as forgiveness and righteousness are only received through Faith in Christ’s substitutionary sacrifice. Faith alone justifies, although Faith itself is not a work of Man but of God. Thus, I disagree with Huber, Bivens, Buchholz, and others who assert that all people are forgiven separate from faith.
    No struggle here!

  • Ron Pederson Thanks for your kindly worded response. I am aware of the situation you refer to where a WELS pastor was removed from the WELS because he denied objective justification to mean the sins of the world are forgiven in Christ. 


    This action by the WELS w
    as only consistent with what they and the ELS believe and practice in other situations as well. There have been many pastors who have applied for membership in the ELS or WELS who were turned down because they could not accept our position on objective justification. No seminary graduate would be allowed to become a pastor in either the WELS or ELS if it became known that they did not agree with our position on OJ. Any pastor in either the WELS or ELS would not be allowed to stay if he persisted in a different view of OJ. 

    I understand that the pastor you refer to now belongs to a different synod. It is a synod that believes almost exactly the same as we do except for OJ. And I am sure that that synod would also practice what they believe and remove any pastor who persisted in his disagreement with the synod’s position on OJ. 

    Again, thanks for a good and civil discussion . I understand the hurt that you feel regarding of this situation. But remember, let scripture, not a man or your loyalty to him, be your guide. [The portion is red is an outright lie, because Kuske denied the precious dogma of UOJ, and he was not removed. Those who remember the Gausewitz catechism realize justification by faith – not UOJ – was taught to WELS members for decades.]

    14 hrs · Edited · 

  • Steven E. Anderson My main objection to UOJ is the idea that God declares a person justified and forgiven outside of faith because God’s declarations have weight, purpose and efficacy. Scripture teaches that the unbeliever is still in his sins, condemned, and the wrath of God abides upon him. Simple law and gospel distinction.

  • Daniel Baker “Let scripture, not a man or your loyalty to him, be your guide.” 

    Could not have said it better myself. “He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.”

  • David Jay Webber The same person who said that (John the Baptist) also said that Jesus is the Lamb of God who takes away the sins of the world. That’s also a part of the gospel.
    11 hrs · 

  • Steven E. Anderson John 9:41 
    Jesus said unto them, If ye were blind, ye should have no sin: but now ye say, We see; therefore your sin remaineth.

  • David Jay Webber “My main objection to UOJ is the idea that God declares a person justified and forgiven outside of faith…” The only “person” – in the singular – who is declared justified in objective justification is Jesus. Jesus is justified on behalf of the world, and therefore the world is justified in Jesus, but no individual person as such is justified in the objective sense except for Jesus. Objective justification is first about the justification of Jesus, and second it is about the world’s justification in Jesus – since Jesus died and rose again for the world. Apart from Jesus, objective justification is not about the justification of “a person.” That is subjective justification.[Jay presents the position of Halle Pietism as Lutheran orthodoxy, but what can we expect from an MDiv trying to earn an STM from a unionistic mini-seminary?]

  • Daniel Baker “We believe that God has justified all sinners, that is, he has declared them righteous for the sake of Christ.” ~ This We Believe.
    11 hrs · 

  • Steven E. Anderson You speak of “in Jesus.” Not all are in Him, and only those in Him are justified.


    Romans 16:7 

    Salute Andronicus and Junia, my kinsmen, and my fellowprisoners, who are of note among the apostles, who also were in Christ before me. [Well said and documented.]

    11 hrs · 

  • David Jay Webber “All sinners” = the world of sinners. “All sinners” ≠ “a person.”
    11 hrs · 

  • Steven E. Anderson The world of sinners is comprised of individual sinners. What applies to the group must apply to each part of the group. It can’t be that a group is affected but no individual member of the group is affected.

  • Daniel Baker “Them” implies a group of “persons.” The word “them” does not, in any use of the English language, evoke a singular “it.”
    11 hrs · 

  • David Jay Webber “In Christ” means different things in different contexts. John the Baptist says the sins of the world were taken away by Jesus. Taken away from where? Taken away to where? What did Jesus vicariously do for the world as its substitute? What did he do for the world when he died for the world? What did he do for the world when he rose again for the world? he actually did something for the world. He took the sins of the world away from the world, and took them upon himself, and died for them. And then, in his resurrection, God took the sins of the world away from Jesus. In Christ, therefore – and this is a component of our Christ-centered gospel – the sins of the world are no longer on the world, and they are no longer on Jesus either. They are gone. This is so, and is objectively true, in Christ, because of who Christ is, and because of what Christ has actually done. Apart from Christ, according to the law, and according to the state of all unbelieving individuals as such, the sin of unbelievers remains on them, and they remain under wrath. They don’t have Christ, and therefore they do not have what Christ has for them – namely, their justification. But Jesus really has this for them. It exists for them, because Jesus did die and rise again for them. Jesus was condemned for the world, so that in Jesus the world was condemned. And Jesus was justified for the world, so that in Jesus the world was justified. [More smoke and mirrors, using passages to mislead everyone. This is the Halle Pietism argument all over again.]

  • Daniel Baker The problem with that logic is that Jesus wasn’t justified. He was condemned. He died. And then He swallowed condemnation and death in the totality of His righteousness. He overcame the sins of the world with the completeness of His perfection. He didn’t have to be declared righteous because He is Righteousness incarnate. He didn’t have to be pardoned from iniquity because He bore the fullness of iniquity’s penalty and then crushed it.
    10 hrs · Edited · 

  • Steven E. Anderson 1 Peter 3:18
    For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:
    10 hrs · 

  • David Jay Webber The focus of our salvation in Christ is on the righteousness of his obedience – his actions of living, dying, and rising again – and not on the righteousness of his person. Certainly Luther and others use various images to describe what happened when Jesus died, and when Jesus rose, and the Bible itself describes these acts in various ways, from different angles. But his resurrection was an intrinsically important saving act, just as was his death. [More Pietism, thinly veiled.]


  • ...we should preach also forgiveness of sins in his name. This signifies nothing else than that the Gospel should be preached, which declares unto all the world that in Christ the sins of all the world are swallowed up, and that he suffered de
    ath to put away sin from us, and arose to devour it, and blot it out. All this he did, that whoever believeth, should have the comfort and assurance that it is reckoned unto him, even as if he himself had done it; that his work is mine and thine and all men’s; yea that he gives himself to us with all his gifts to be our own personal property. Hence, as he is without sin and never dies by virtue of his resurrection even so I also am if I believe in him… [Is UOJ the Chief Article, the Master and Prince, the judge of all other articles of the Christian Faith? Using Luther to topple Luther is shameless.]

  • David Jay Webber Luther also preaches that the resurrection


    “presents to us Christ no longer in woe and misery, weighed down with the ponderous mass of our sins, which God has laid upon Him, but beautiful, glorious and rejoicing; for all the sins have disappeared from
     Him. From this we have a right to conclude: If our sins, on account of the sufferings of Christ, lie no longer upon us, but are taken from our shoulders by God Himself and placed upon His Son, and if on Easter, after the resurrection, they are no more to be seen, where then are they? Micah truly says: They are sunk into the depth of the sea, and no devil nor any body else shall find them again (Mic. 7:18-19).”

  • Steven E. Anderson That sermon speaks of faith.
    9 hrs · 

  • David Jay Webber Of course it does. Faith receives what Jesus established as an objective reality for the world through his death and resurrection.

  • Joel Dusek Forgive me for jumping back in late, but I do want to address Rev. Pederson’s last comment to me. ” I understand the hurt that you feel regarding of this situation. But remember, let scripture, not a man or your loyalty to him, be your guide.”


    I appr
    eciate that sentiment, Rev. Pederson, but this issue was not personal or an emotional response for me. I did not become aware of the Justification controversy until I had already left the WELS. I simply assumed that the standard, accepted teaching was Justification by Grace through Faith, and had never heard the term “Universal Objective Justification” until it came up in regard to Pastor Rydecki’s situation. When I heard of it, I studied. 

    I have never met Pastor Rydecki in person, though I count him among my friends. Overall, I agree with your point about a synod – any synod – desiring its members to be in agreement. However, I believe Pastor Rydecki was not given the benefit of inquiry and discussion, and his dismissal was political and bureaucratic, not doctrinal. I don’t mean to open another can of worms, but just want to stress that I (and from my experience others on “this side”, as it were) do not approach the Justification question from a personal alliance or faction, but from Scripture and the Confessions as we have read them and had them explained. 


    God’s Peace be with you! [Behind DP Buchholz blundering gambits was his Iago, Jay Webber.]

  • William Miller As I read through the comments made by those who object to the doctrine of objective justification, it appears to me that those objections are not based upon a disagreement regarding what the relevant verses actually say, rather, the objections are based on perceived incompatibility with other doctrines. Is that correct? In other words, it is not a translation issue, but a systematic theology issue. If this is true, it may be helpful for one of our pastors to present a brief synopsis of how we (WELS) develop doctrines from scripture. It is my understanding that we extract from scripture all of the verses that treat a particular doctrine, then develop a doctrinal statement based only upon what those particular verses tell us. It is further my understanding, that we make no effort to reconcile doctrines which may appear to conflict with one another, but simply allow what may appear to us to be a conflict to stand. With all due respect to my Christian brothers who object to this OJ, I have to tell you that your objections baffle me. For me, the meaning of these verses are clear, and they comfort me greatly. It comforts me to know that Jesus took away the sins of the world, and it comforts me again to hear pastor’s absolution in which my sins are forgiven again, and then to receive that forgiveness all over again in the sacrament. It comforts me to know that the Lord taught us to pray for forgiveness, and so I do pray for that forgiveness, and again feel that comfort knowing my sins have been forgiven again. It comforts me that Jesus cried out, it is finished, because I know what it is that he had finished doing. The doctrine of objective justification is a doctrine of comfort. It is precious. Without it, my peace would surely be diminished. We are like dogs chasing their tails. Remorse comfort, remorse comfort, remorse comfort. I need all the comfort God offers. God so loved the world that he sent his son, Jesus came to destroy the work of the devil, and to undo what Adam did. Don’t let your reason rob you of the peace that God has declared. [What a load of fresh Dreck! WELS began in Pietism, had professors trained in Walther’s Pietism, and asserted that Pietism through UOJ and Church Growth. The Scriptures are only a rabbit’s foot for these people, and the Book of Concord is something mention without knowing its contents.]

  • Seth Bode  Even by those who deny universal justification, it has been conceded that faith is God’s work. Doesn’t a declaration of not guilty and a promise of forgiveness create faith in an unbelieving heart? Are those who do not believe not offered a true promise until they believe it? It is gospel. John named the Lamb of God that men might believe that he takes away their sins. Paul tells the Corinthians the message of reconciliation for those who need to hear it is also a message of non-imputation. Justification by the understanding of Scripture has really a universal promise by virtue of Christ alone. But Christ alone does not negate faith alone just as he does not negate Scripture alone or grace alone. Saying justification doesn’t come before faith logically is like saying we can’t have three or four solas. [Note that denying the dogma of Pietism is considered a grave error. Once anyone begins with that wobbly foundation, the rest of the story will be just as shaky.]
  • Is that why your Queen Creek mission closed, Jay?
    Too robust? Or could they not untangle your weird dogma
    of grace without the Means of Grace?


  • David Jay Webber One of the weirdest things about this debate is the erroneous claim made by a very few, that there is some kind of connection between adherence to objective justification, and a minimizing of the means of grace as is often seen in “church growth” or “contemporary worship” congregations. Just the opposite is the case. [ GJ – See the ELS, WELS, and LCMS CoWo circuses as contrary proof.] A proper teaching of objective justification is what makes the means of grace truly to be the means of grace. Word and sacrament carry, deliver, and confer a real forgiveness that already exists in Christ for everyone, and do not just propose that forgiveness may or will happen or be brought into existence under certain conditions. A robust theology of justification, and a robust theology of the means of grace (with a corresponding appreciation for the liturgy and hymns of the church, which are shaped and defined by the means of grace), go hand in hand.

  • Let’s Ask the Theologians Formerly Cited (not quoted) as UOJ Enthusiasts





Quoted by Dr. Robert Preus in his final book.


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Ichabod, The Glory Has Departed: Basics of Pietism – Essential for Understanding UOJ and the Collapse of the Pietistic Synodical Conference

Saturday, September 12, 2015

Basics of Pietism – Essential for Understanding UOJ and the Collapse of the Pietistic Synodical Conference



Spener began Pietism, which was unionistic from the start. He baptized Zinsendorf, leader of the Moravians, who began world missions and profoundly influenced Wesley. See Knapp below.

Philipp Jakob Spener started Pietism with his Pia Desideria (Pious Wishes) in 1675. He wrote a long essay as an introduction to a popular orthodox book of sermons by Johann Arndt, so Arndt’s book served inadvertently as a launching pad for Pietism. Spener had already started conventicles or cell groups in 1669. (Pia Desideria, ed. Tappert, p. 13)

Some hallmarks of Pietism are:

  1. A heart religion instead of a head religion. Pietists often mention that false distinction.
  2. Lay-led conventicles or cell groups, to develop piety through prayer and Bible study.
  3. Unionism – cooperation between Lutherans and the Reformed. Spener was the first union theologian (Heick, II, p. 23).
  4. An emphasis on good works and foreign missions. “Deeds, not creeds” is a popular motto.
  5. Denial of the Real Presence and baptismal regeneration, consequences of working with the Reformed. (Heick, II, p. 24)
  6. A better, higher, or deeper form of Christianity rather than the Sunday worshiping church. This often made the cell group the real church, the gathered church.
Webber favors Rambach over Chemnitz

Spener influenced the ruler to found Halle University in 1694, to teach actual Biblical studies, which had been neglected in favor of ferocious dogmatic struggles between the Lutherans and Calvinists.



August Hermann Francke, (1663–1727)

Francke met with Spener, adopted his program, and got into a world of trouble over Pietism. Spener had Francke appointed to the newly established Halle University. Francke remained there as a professor and pastor of a congregation for the next 36 years. His energy spread the influence of Pietism, both in his charity work (Halle Orphanage) and his Biblical teaching.



Count Zinzendorf with Wesley

Count Zinzendorf (1700-1760) had a profound effect on the spread of Pietism, not only through his contact and friendship with Wesley, but also by being the father of world missions. Methodism is another form of Pietism. The English Methodist George Scott influenced Carl Olaf Rosenius, who founded Swedish Pietism together.

Zinzendorf is also known for his “Come Lord Jesus” prayer and his hymns. Pietistic hymns emphasize the blood of Jesus because of the influence of Johann Albrecht Bengel. (Heick, II, p. 25) Bengel’s son-in-law, Burk, may be the inventor of Objective Justification.

The English Methodist George Scott (1804-1874) came to Sweden and worked with Carl Olaf Rosenius (1816-1868), who founded the newspaper Pietisten. The Swedish-American Augustana Synod looked to Rosenius as their patriarch. Augustana taught justification by faith, arguing against the Norwegian Pietists who promoted justification without faith. Two offshoots of Swedish Pietism in America are the Evangelical Covenant and Evangelical Free denominations, both deeply involved in the Church Growth Movement.



Jakob Boehme, radical Pietist

Boehme (1575-1624) illustrates what can happen when someone just starts making up all kinds of things. Today he is called creative. Another radical Pietist was Emanuel Swedenborg (1688-1772).



Johann Albrecht Bengel (1687—1752)

Bengel introduced weird ideas about the blood of Christ stored in heaven for justification. His work greatly influenced the Pietistic hymns (Jesus Thy Blood and Righteousness) and the theology of Zinzendorf.

Bengel is also famous for his Gnomon, used by John Wesley for his Expository Notes. Does this explain Methodist George Scott–>Rosenius–>Objective Justification? Note Burk below.

Bengel’s son-in-law published an expanded edition of one of his works in 1763 – Philip David Burk (1714-1770).

Hoenecke (Dogmatik, III, p. 354-5) wrote this: And Ph. D. Burk (Rechtfertigung und Versicherung, p. 41) rightly said:

The difference between general justification and the more common usage of the term justification can be expressed as follows. The latter takes place precisely upon the appropriation of the former.

Hoenecke added a sentence used as a bromide by all UOJ fanatics: “An emphasis upon general justification is necessary in order to safeguard the material content of the Gospel.”

In German, general justification means – each and every one is justified. General seems vague in English, so that is probably why moderns have used Objective Justification and Universal Justification and Universal Objective Justification. All three terms mean what the Brief Statement of 1932 imagines – God declared the whole world free of sin, without faith, without the Word, without the Means of Grace.
(1932 B.S.Scripture teaches that God has already declared the whole world to be righteous in Christ, Rom. 5:19; 2 Cor. 5:18-21; Rom. 4:25; that therefore not for the sake of their good works, but without the works of the Law, by grace, for Christ’s sake, He justifies, that is, accounts as righteous, all those who believe, accept, and rely on, the fact that for Christ’s sake their sins are forgiven.)



Christian von Wolff (1679-1754)

Halle moved quickly from Pietism to Radical Pietism to Rationalism. Wolff, professor at Halle, exemplified the rationalism which spread to all other German universities from Halle. Frederick William I fired Wolff from Halle, so Marburg University immediately hired him. Wolff eventually returned to Halle, lionized by academics and a favorite of Frederick the Great.



Adolph Hoenecke (1835-1908) studied at Halle under Tholuck, who studied under Knapp. Hoenecke is the principal theologian, perhaps the only theologian, of the Wisconsin Synod.

George Christian Knapp (1753-1825) was a Pietist but very rationalistic. He taught two justifications, objective and subjective, in his Lectures on Theology, published in German in 1789. The Lectures were translated into English in 1831 by Leonard Wood, who was very influential at the time, published and used in many editions in America. The Lectures were still being used at Andover at the end of the 19th century, mirroring the enormous span of years Knapp spent teaching.

Knapp taught Objective and Subjective Justification, in form familiar to Missouri, WELS, and the Little Sect on the Prairie:

Here are some statements from the English edition, 8th, 1859, p. 397ff:

The Scripture doctrine of pardon or justification through Christ, as an universal and unmerited favour of God.

1. The Universality of this Benefit

It is universal as the atonement itself…If the atonement extends to the whole human race, justification must also be universal–i.e., all must be able to obtain the actual forgiveness of their sins and blessedness on account of the atonement of Christ. But in order to obviate mistakes, some points may require explanation.

*[Translator note – This is very conveniently expressed by the terms objective and subjective justification. Objective justification is the act of God, by which he profers pardon to all through Christ; subjective is the act of man, by which he accepts the pardon freely offered in the gospel. The former is universal, the latter not.]

The Register, quoted below:

“Dr. Knapp, late Professor at the University of Halle, was born at Glancha,in Halle, on the 17th of September, 1753, and received his early education in the Royal Paedagogium, one of the institutions of the pious Francke. At the age of 17, he entered the university at Halle, and attended the lectures of Semler, Noesselt and Gruner, with more than common success. The Bible was his great object of study, while the Latin and Greek classics still received a degree of attention which enabled him ever afterwards to adorn, enrich and illustrate from classical literature whatever he said or wrote in the department of Theological science. In 1774 he completed his course of study, and in 1775, after a short absence, he began to lecture, at Halle, with much success upon Cicero, the New Testament, and the more difficult portions of the Old Testament. He was appointed Prof. Extraordinary in 1777, and Prof. Ordinary in 1782. He then lectured in Exegesis, Church History, and in Jewish and Christian Antiquities.

On the death of Freylinghausen (1785), he and Niemeyer were appointed Directors of Francke’s Institutes; and continued jointly to superintend these establishments for more than 40 years. In the division of duties, the Bible and Missionary establishment fell to Dr. Knapp, which brought him into near connection with the Moravians. The lectures, of which this volume forms a part, he commenced during the summer of the same year.”

Tholuck mentored Hoenecke

From Henry Eyster Jacobs:

Only in George Christian Knapp a branch of the old Halle school remained, but reserved and timid, and without any extensive influence. At my [Tholuck’s] entrance in Halle in 1826 I found still two citizens who traced their faith to this one deceased advocate of the old school among the clergy.” This deterioration, however, was gradual.

Nevertheless, Knapp supported Unitarian-Universalist arguments.

Friedrich August Tholuck (1799‒1877) also taught two justifications, following the teaching of his own mentor George Christian Knapp.

From the Bethany Lectures:

Tholuck took a personal interest in Hoenecke, as he did with all of his students. He liked to take walks with his students, using the occasion as a time for peripatetic Seelsorge. Tholuck also gave Hoenecke quite a few free meals, which he had sorely needed.

Hoenecke traveled to America through the offices of a Pietistic missionary society. In Switzerland, his studies of the Confessions and later Lutheran orthodox fathers were doubtless pivotal in making him stronger in Lutheran doctrine.



C. F. W. Walther participated in Pietistic gatherings in Europe and came over with a Pietistic leader, Bishop Stephan.

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“For God has already forgiven you your sins 1800 years ago when He in Christ absolved all men by raising Him after He first had gone into bitter death for them. Only one thing remains on your part so that you also possess the gift. This one thing is—faith. And this brings me to the second part of today’s Easter message, in which I now would show you that every man who wants to be saved must accept by faith the general absolution, pronounced 1800 years ago, as an absolution spoken individually to him.”
C. F. W. Walther, The Word of His Grace, Sermon Selections, “Christ’s Resurrection—The World’s Absolution” Lake Mills: Graphic Publishing Company, 1978, p. 233. Mark 16:1-8.

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